Live from an Israeli bunker

Friday, July 21, 2006

Let loose the dogs of war

Thousands of troops are on their way to the border, an additional 5000 have been recruited. A top Israeli general, Dan Halutz went on TV and announced that ground troops will be going in to the fighting. The forces are building up, you can almost feel it, and we are in this for the long run now, there is no doubt anymore. A few weeks in the least.

The rationale is that you can't achieve everything needed from the air alone. That's true, but I'm still not happy about this. Its 1982 all over again, this is Israel's Vietnam. (I feel it's sacrificing soldiers for public opinion, in order to reach Hezbollah's fighters the bombings will take a large civilian toll from the Lebanese and sway the world's opinion against us. While unfortunate I can't choose their civilians over our troops, but apparently our government can. Is the government really more moral then I am?) He also says that Hezbollah suffered about 100 casualties and they are not reporting them. He also showed proof of how they are using civilians to shield themselves, cars with rocket launchers next to mosques and what have you.

There is also an alert of a female suicide bomber in Tel Aviv. This is from Israel's second front against Hamas in Gaza. Large police forces are being deployed and hopefully she will be caught. A similar event already happened a few days ago.

The tallest bridge in the Middle East (if I got that right) between Syria and Lebanon has been successfully bombed. Also, it's being reported that one of Hezbollah's main rocket launch sites against Haifa has been destroyed.

Long weeks ahead. I'm already starting to occasionally hear the rumble of jet fighters in the distance. If you've never experienced it, it sounds like a thunder storm is approaching from a distance, makes you think of Odin. For those of you who think this is a mistake (not strategy wise, but a genuine mistake) I'll leave you with these words: "One ought never to turn ones back on a threatened danger and try to run away from it. If you do that, you will double the danger. But if you meet it promptly and without flinching, you will reduce the danger by half." -Churchill

Update: female suicide bomber apprehended next to the Dan Hotel in Tel Aviv.

55 Comments:

  • I'm glad the female suicide bomber was caught. All the media reporting on Lebanon has not swayed my feelings about Israel in any way. I only dislike Hezbollah's tactics.

    Aren't you the age of recruitment to the IDF? Is it mandatory? Or can you not sign up?

    Keep safe!

    By Blogger Sunny, at 9:11 PM  

  • Eugene --

    If Israel constantly shows Images and Video of Hizbollah hiding among civillians as Human Shields, the extent of Hizbollah rocket arsenals in civilian homes,

    Opinion will not turn against Israel.

    It's a media battle also for sure.

    Israel has to show the hipocryts for what they are.

    By Blogger Scott, at 9:21 PM  

  • Unfortunately such images are not making their way into the American media, Scott.

    By Blogger Dan, at 10:20 PM  

  • we draft to the army in the age of 18 and a half, after you have compleated 12 yeas of school.
    its mandatory, but there are a lot of ways you can get out of it, or atleast not be classfide as a combatnt. you can even make the best of it by starting your profetional cereer in the military. if you are good at what you do, you can be accepted to a speacial unite that only inhances your reputation. it can be a about programming, media, all kinds of sience profations, medicine, law, driving, or even be in a military band.
    most gifted people find their place in the military, and only use it as a jumping board to the profetional world.
    oh, ya, if you are a normal soldier, not in a speacial unite or anything, you have to serve for 2 years and sevral months. if you are a gril - somewhtat less than 2 years.
    if you are in a special unite - you can be looking for up to 9 years. but with a very good pay, a huge reputation (for being in that unite) and a dream job.

    By Anonymous Funnyl Little Man, at 10:31 PM  

  • Hizbullaah is out-their-damn-mind.

    i got some good friends in the area right now. My thoughts and prayers are with all of you. Stay safe.

    As for the whole crazy situation, check out my blog at http://latepass.blogspot.com

    Please excuse the shameless self-promotion :)

    Shalom.

    By Blogger MBD, at 10:45 PM  

  • We here in the diaspora(I live in Brazil) are praying everyday for peace in Israel. We are also sending money to NGOs in May G-d help us again against our enemies, the new Aman.

    I also read always in the morning the Psalms 20, 120 and specially 83 and 94.

    Let's hope the Tzahal can smash the infrastructure of terror very fast and with minimun casualties on civilians.


    Am Israel Chai!!!

    By Blogger José Paulo Papo, at 10:59 PM  

  • 3 minute film on YouTube compares New England's size to the Middle East and asks the question, "What would it be like to live in a small, sliver of a country surrounded by enemies?" ... pretty cool.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHZPRrtWe-Q

    By Blogger Sterling, Massachusetts, at 11:06 PM  

  • Shabbat shalom to BunkerBlogger and all the rest of you folks out there in Cyberland.

    By Anonymous Mr. Kite, USA, at 11:31 PM  

  • You are wise beyond your years.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. Israel will never be destroyed.

    Those countries who stand with Israel will come out on top.

    My hope is that if Israel is in need of assistance, America will assist.

    By Blogger ThirDEE, at 11:44 PM  

  • Eugene,

    Shabbat Shalom.

    Stay safe.

    W

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 12:31 AM  

  • "While unfortunate I can't choose their civilians over our troops, but apparently our government can. Is the government really more moral then I am?"

    I think that a life is a life is a life, it does not matter if it is israeli or lebanese. What matters is that Israel AND Lebanon fight the ONE enemy: Hezbollah. It's all about some fundamentalist retards who spread their poison in your area for decades. And by saying that they should "stop that shit", George Bush at least said something intelligent _once_.

    By Blogger lepascal, at 1:16 AM  

  • G-d speed to your warriors. Stay safe.

    By Anonymous 'o_2opine_o' on LJ, at 1:26 AM  

  • Hey, Eugene, did you see this over at Roger Simon's site?

    http://www.rogerlsimon.com/mt-archives/2006/07/who_is_the_new.php

    I think you may have just found a new logo... :)

    By Anonymous josh, at 2:05 AM  

  • From far away in the USA I feel YOU! It is just so hard, my husband and i lived in Tzfat for 14 months returning to the US last Nov. I pour over every piece of REAL news that comes our way in the form of emails from friends in Israel and blogs.I am so upset with the main stream news media here in the US. It seems they can put a dozen new photos a day of Lebanon but none of Israel since the first few days, today finally some new pictures...I pray for all of you, my heart tells me that none of you are safe! BUt my intelligence reminds me that this had to happen sooner or later, it is so obvious that Hizbollah has done nothing but increase it's strength since we pulled out of there...like you I understand that one never turns their back on the enemy! Be strong, keep blogging and be safe!!Shabbat Shalom, Leah

    By Blogger Leah PettePiece, at 2:13 AM  

  • God speed, IDF...

    http://caninepundit.blogspot.com/2006/07/israel-throws-down.html

    By Blogger Sirius, at 2:25 AM  

  • Shabat Shalom.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:48 AM  

  • “The object of war is not to die for your country but to make the other bastard die for his.”
    General George S. Patton
    The time and place of this war is Hezbollah's choice, the outcome depends on the resolve and conviction of the people of Israel with a little help from above.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:53 AM  

  • Eugene,

    Shabat Shalom.

    We in the USA are standing steadfastly and square with you.

    If you want a rabidly pro-Israeli indulgence, please stop by my blog and hang-out.

    Please let me know if I can do anything for you or your family.

    Charles
    www.politicallyexpedientpundit.com

    By Blogger Charles, at 3:23 AM  

  • Quisiera que hubiera paz de una vez... Que los arabes entiendan que Israel es una realidad. Desde Chile, mucha fuerza y animo para lo que viene.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:45 AM  

  • Hooh Rah Charles. 4th Infantry division! ;)


    It's hard to say whats going to happen. I will be interested to see if Hizzbollah stands their ground and take on the IDF in Conventional war when they go into Lebanon. They said they would but we all know they don't tell the truth alot.

    The biggest threat to the IDF is Urban Ambushes and of course Shoot and scoot mortar teams, their especially irriating.

    I hope the IDF has been Studying the battles Between the US Forces and the Insurgency in Iraq because i predict the fighting in Lebanon will be Quite similar.

    RPG-7's will do shit to Merkhava Battle Tanks, and I doubt Hizzbollah have any modern Anti-vehicular Weapons....unless Iran Gave them to them.

    By Blogger LibrarianAkios, at 4:01 AM  

  • Don't be so sure about the ineffectiveness of RPGs on Western MBTs... my understanding is that they've been found effective against M1A1s in Iraq, but I don't pretend to be an expert. And if they can kill an M1A1, they can kill a Merkava... or at least, that's what I'd surmise.

    By Anonymous Mr. Kite, USA, at 4:14 AM  

  • first of all eugene i just have this to say you were cool before but now you have mentioned ODIN the all father you are the man


    and libraraianakios i dout they would use all there aces and if you look at iraq i hate to say it an ied can penetrate even a m1a2 armor(best tank in the world no contest)plus theyve found modern anti armor missles(russian made of course)no this will be one hell of a bloody war im sorry but a lot of israelis will die oh well may they travel to valhalla....or where ever israelis go..they should go to valhalla thad be cool i think yes beer and battle and bo...er women but thats just my vission of heaven...hmmm but no death in there and stuff

    By Blogger james, at 4:20 AM  

  • With you in spirit-

    By Blogger isaiah, at 4:22 AM  

  • oh yea and a rpg can damage a tank but not destroy it.you know stuff like blow of tank treeds and stuff



    ill post the specifications

    By Blogger james, at 4:23 AM  

  • ok here they are



    first the Merkava MK3

    Weight 61,000 kg
    Length 8.8 metres
    Width
    Height 2.8 metres
    Powerplant AVDS-1790-9ar air cooled diesel
    Rating 1,200 horsepower
    Performance
    maximum speed 55 km/hour
    Fuel 1,400 litres
    Range 500 kilometres
    obstacle step height 1 metre
    width ditch 3.5 metres
    Weapons
    main gun 120 mm smoothbore gun
    Ammunition 50 rounds of 120 mm calibre ammunition
    machine guns three 7.62 millimetre machine guns
    Ammunition 10,000 rounds of 7.62 mm ammunition.
    Mortar one 60 millimetre mortar system


    ok M1A2 ABRAMS

    Crew 4 - driver, commander, gunner, loader
    Weight 69.54 tons
    Dimensions
    length with gun forward 387 inches
    turret height 93.5 inches
    Width 144 inches
    ground clearance 19 inches
    ground pressure 15.4 p.s.i.
    Propulsion gas turbine engine, 1500 horsepower
    Transmission hydrokinetic transmission, 4 forward gears, 2 reverse gears
    Power-to-weight ratio 21.6 hp/ton
    Performance
    maximum governed speed 42 m.p.h.
    speed cross country 30 m.p.h.
    Speed, 10% slope 17 m.p.h.
    speed 60% slope 4.1 m.p.h.
    Acceleration 0 to 20 m.p.h. in 7.2 seconds
    Range 265 miles cruising
    obstacle crossing
    Vertical 42 inches
    Trench 9 feet
    main armament 120 mm smooth bore cannon, M256
    coaxial Weapon 7.62 mm machine gun, M240
    Loader's Weapon 7.62 mm machine gun, M240, on skate mount
    Commander's weapon 0.50 calibre machine gun, M2, on powered rotary platform
    nbc protection: 200 SCFM, clean cooled air

    By Blogger james, at 4:28 AM  

  • God bless you. I really really hope that this time (finally) Israel will not lose her resolve and finish Hizbollah, and hopefully Syria and Iran too.

    Plese keep safe.

    I am really happy that our government (after thirteen years of cowardice) finally supports justice and freedom over terrorism.

    Andy from Canada

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 5:16 AM  

  • I just wanted to say that you are sowing hatred in a whole new generation of Lebanese. Maybe you win in the short term. But Peace can never be obtained by FORCE.

    http://leb-monitor.com/pages/main.html

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 6:46 AM  

  • Shame on you to the above comment, this young man is one of the innocent. This is all just his point of view, can you accept that?

    By Blogger Sunny, at 7:33 AM  

  • "Never was so much owed by so many to so few." - Churchill

    It was true in WWII about the RAF in the Battle of Britain.

    It's true in the War on Terror about the State of Israel in the war against Hezbollah in Lebanon.

    By Anonymous Jeremayakvoka, at 8:12 AM  

  • I am so sad that Israel must always be on the alert. Always be in fear of being elimininated by those surrounding her who hate her. Why cos of the Jewish faith. We pray for you your family and your nation. America is your friend. We remember 60 years ago. Your people must be so brave. We in the US found out what it is like to be hated by madmen on 9/11. How do u make a peace with madmen? Mothers that will strap bombs on their daughters.I believe rightousness will win out in the end. God keep u safe.

    By Anonymous Gene in Pennsylvania, at 8:26 AM  

  • ".....But Peace can never be obtained by FORCE."

    Pardon me, but did someone not watch the WW II reruns?

    If you have a swallow well, keep a tight cover on it, else it go dry.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 8:34 AM  

  • Rock on! I'll be linking you from my site! The Mullahs want me dead anyway . . .

    -T

    By Blogger The Therapist, at 8:55 AM  

  • I send my best wishes to the people of both Lebanon and Israel who are willing to stick to humanity and who are willing to remember that violence is never an answer to whatever situation, and who are aware that it is them who actually have to stand up for peace in their countries. Be critical about all your politicians and military staff, be critical about "good advisors" from outside. criticism is not a lack of loyalty or faith.

    all the best,
    christina

    By Anonymous christina, at 9:04 AM  

  • Eugene, the full quote is more on point. Then again there is nothing new under the sun.
    ANTONY:
    Blood and destruction shall be so in use
    And dreadful objects so familiar
    That mothers shall but smile when they behold
    Their infants quarter'd with the hands of war;
    All pity choked with custom of fell deeds:
    And Caesar's spirit, ranging for revenge,
    With Ate by his side come hot from hell,
    Shall in these confines with a monarch's voice
    Cry 'Havoc,' and let slip the dogs of war;
    That this foul deed shall smell above the earth
    With carrion men, groaning for burial.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 10:25 AM  

  • Peace be with you, soon. You have changed the world already.

    - Syberyenta, NYC

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 3:18 PM  

  • Christina,
    To say that 'violence is never an answer to any situation' is nothing but wishful thinking at its worst. Don't you think violence settled Hitler's destiny rather thoroughly? Imperialist Japan's destiny? Violence is sometimes the only answer

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 11:15 PM  

  • the israelis use warheads that are designed to take out one specific target the rockets hezbollah fire are designed to spread shrapnel sence these missiles are fired at civilian targets there designed to kill,maim, or murder inocent people imagine what that would do to a school yard full of children....hezbollah would love that threw there actions these men have proven not to be human...to me they have no rights...destroy them all

    By Blogger james, at 5:10 AM  

  • "While unfortunate I can't choose their civilians over our troops, but apparently our government can."

    If I'm not mistake, the Geneva convention does not agree with you. How can you possibly say that it's ok for non-fighting civilians to die, as long as soldiers (who are sadly basically paid to die) are spared.

    with that reasoning, why don't we just nuke ourselves a "buffer" zone out of Leb, syria, jordan, and egypt? that seems to follow.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 1:13 PM  

  • I think the Geneva convention goes out the window when your fighting a terrorist group who hides amongst and uses civilians as a human shield. But that's why I'm not running the country, the decision has been made to try and have as few civilian casualties as possible even if it means losses to our troops.

    Our army is not a paid army, these are kids who finished high school and had a year or so of training who are going in there.

    By Blogger Live from an Israeli bunker, at 1:19 PM  

  • Get your facts straight. Hizbollah existing in Lebanon isn't the same as hiding among the civilians.

    A bus full of civilians?
    A stream where children swim?
    The beirut lighthouse?
    A Pepsi factory?
    A wood mill?
    Dairy farms?
    Wheat fields and silos?
    A chocolate factory?
    THE FREAKING AIRPORT?!?!?
    A Lebanese army baracks?
    The power plants?

    Yes, i'm sure Hizbollah's been hiding in all of these places. I'm being sarcastic by the way.

    By Anonymous Anonymous, at 2:14 PM  

  • Keeping weapons and shooting out of peoples homes, digging tunnels under villages, and preventing civilians from leaving the area constitutes using them as human shields.

    Now you posted this list of places that were hit. I can't confirm it, I don't hear about all the targets. But suppose each and everyone listed is correct.

    "A bus full of civilians?
    A stream where children swim?
    A Pepsi factory?
    A wood mill?
    Dairy farms?
    Wheat fields and silos?
    A chocolate factory?"

    In your opinion do jews hate chocolate and think millions of dollars worth of bombs are a price worth paying so no Lebanese will enjoy eating chocolate goodness ever again? Give me a possible reason for us to bomb these things. You have none.

    Perhaps these are mistakes, perhaps you and I don't know the information around it.

    "The beirut lighthouse?
    THE FREAKING AIRPORT?!?!?
    A Lebanese army barracks?
    The power plants?" - These I can explain. Hezbollah has been receiving reinforcements from Iran and Syria. You can't deny that, it's known.

    Now, light house is part of the naval blockade. If at night a Syrian ship tries to smuggle in weapons for example.

    The airport very much so. Israel actually allowed a few planes to leave before doing that. The airport was bombed so no planes can land and bring reinforcements to the Hezbollah. I'm sorry, but what else would you have us do?

    Power plant as well. Look were not perfect, no army is. But we are trying really really really hard not to hurt civilians, we might make mistakes but it is not on purpose. And I think you realize that.

    By Blogger Live from an Israeli bunker, at 2:38 PM  

  • before going any further, i appreciate the civilized discussion. we may each find the other's claims to be absurd. but niether of us is pulling the trigger.

    i do believe that both sides are guilty of many crimes. but i also believe that one side is more guilty than the other (guess who?).

    anyways, so that you know who you're talking with, i'll start using a name.

    By Anonymous arguments, at 2:59 PM  

  • and now to the counter arguments.

    "Keeping weapons and shooting out of peoples homes, digging tunnels under villages, and preventing civilians from leaving the area constitutes using them as human shields."

    Of course I'm not 100% sure of the human shield thing, but I haven't seen any proof of it. If there's any proof, i'd like to see it. otherwise I can just as equally claim that that is simply propaganda.

    Additionally, villagers are unable to leave because israel has bombed both gas stations and roads throughout lebanon. Do you expect everyone to just walk to the north of lebanon?

    Oh yeah, forgot to put gas stations on the list of "military targets".

    "chocolate goodness"

    The problem here is that these bombings are financially hurting the lebanese. people don't have a place to work any more. even worse, people are running out of food sources.

    As Israel and the US love to point out. Hizbollah is supported by Iran and Syria. So none of this is hurting them. It's only hurting your average Joe that wants to go to work, get paid, and get wasted on the weekend.

    The outcome to all of this is:

    1) all of lebanon's efforts to rebuild have been nullified.

    2) the rest of the lebanese can't tell hizbolla "there's peace, you can disarm now."

    3) most of the lebanese people have been brought together against israel.

    4) a country that's already struggling with debt, is now in infintely more debt. extreme financial losses will lead to more poverty, less education, and more violence.

    By Anonymous arguments, at 3:17 PM  

  • I'll give you the lighthouse because at least in that instance, it was a pinpoint shot that didn't cause many casualties.

    For the airport to be useful to hizbolla, they need airplanes. I don't think they can smuggle missiles along with the luggage on Middle East and Air France flights.

    It's hard to imagine what kinds of reinforcements can be smuggled on civilian aircraft. and i've never seen reports of non-civilian aircrafts landing there. I'm sure the US would throw a fit if that were the case.

    "Power plant as well... "

    and destoying power plants does what to hizbolla? oh my god! nasralla won't be able to make a cappucino! yes, a severe strike against terrorism.

    i'm sorry, i'll try to be less sarcastic from now on. but this is frustrating.

    but again, i re-iterate. hizbolla is not suffering from these things. the rest of the nation however... god help them. even if israel stopped two days ago, it's going to take years and years to recover... if recovery is possible.

    By Anonymous arguments, at 3:28 PM  

  • I'm glad we can discuss this, that is part of why I'm doing this blog.

    I have proof for you. A Lebanese reader left a comment that he spoke by phone to his friend over there and the friend said he and his family are being prevent to leave by the Hezbollah. And I quote: "we wait for death".

    That's just my own confirmation, there are others. It's very real, and very sad.

    I realize there is a great financial hurt being inflicted there, but know this, once this is over you will get aid and Lebanon will get rebuilt. Hopefully for the last time.

    I can't vouch or promise how my government will act but I can only hope that they will offer aid as well.

    Your point about Iran and Syria is exactly what I'm talking about. You realize that Iran and Syria who are supporting and encouraging Hezbollah are not hurt themselves. Do you also realize that they knew, know, and don't care that YOU are being hurt? They consider you expendable. And Hezbollah is their proxy.

    Is that not reason enough to drive them out? "the rest of the lebanese can't tell Hezbollah "there's peace, you can disarm now." - Can they not say: "there almost was peace but because of Hezbollah there is this unnecessary war where we suffer so much? Hezbollah is responsible and we don't want them anymore"?

    I've posted a few videos on this blog about this. One for example is of Bridgette Gabriele who was a Lebanese citizen and grew up there and currently lives in the US. She talked about how hard it is to speak out, she is receiving death threats over there, it's probably that much harder to say anything over where you are right now.

    I've posted a video of 3 ex-terrorists who explain how they escaped that mentality.

    So my question to you is, if the Lebanese wanted to kick Hezbollah out would they be able to?

    By Blogger Live from an Israeli bunker, at 3:30 PM  

  • I know how frustrating this all is for you, I sympathies and I'm experiencing many of the same feelings.

    I have no military training, I'm not in the army, neither of us have access to the information that promoted those decisions.

    But please know this, the targets are not civilians. It's not aimless bombings, we are trying our best to resolve this with minimum hurt to the Lebanese. It's all we can do, try.

    Don't let that valid frustrations and bitterness turn into hate against Israel but rather transform it into resolve to kick Hezbollah out.

    By Blogger Live from an Israeli bunker, at 4:10 PM  

  • hizbolla's definitely guilty of dragging an entire country into war against its will. but they didn't kill 350+ civilians, a third of which are children.

    but anyways, keeping hostages and prisoners is being done on a much larger scale by the israeli govt.

    i don't think i'll ever forgive israel for this. but on the other hand, i can't forgive the rest of the world, including the arab countries, for allowing this to happen.

    and no, in case you're now thinking "that guy's going to turn into a terrorist", don't be silly. the entire middle east history is proof that violence hasn't gotten either side anywhere.

    eh, that's another long story. so i'll stop here.

    oh, lebanon has offered to put its troops back in the south, get the israeli soldiers back, and disarm hizbolla, in exchange for the lebanese israel has been keeping, and the return of all lebanese territories (including shib'a).

    oh, i've already seen comments about shib'a being syrian. either way, it's not israeli. give it back to either one, and let them solve it between themselves.

    By Anonymous arguments, at 5:01 PM  

  • "oh, lebanon has offered to put its troops back in the south, get the israeli soldiers back, and disarm Hezbollah, in exchange for the lebanese israel has been keeping, and the return of all lebanese territories (including shib'a)" - one can only hope that's true (I've read the Lebanese defence minister saying he will come to Hezbollah's aid), but while rockets are being fired at us (I had 5 sirens today, we have dead and injured as well. As for children, Nasrallah killed two boys aged 3 and 9 who were Arab, he said he's sorry and they are Shahidim) none of that is going to happen.

    Ball is in your court, help as disarm Hezbollah as a firs step, I assure you that once those rockets stop we'll stop as well and start helping you rebuild. Find our soldiers and send them back and you'll get some prisoners. After all of that peace talks can be established, that shib'a thing can be worked out. (are you sure you want to go up against Syria however?)

    But Hezbollah needs to be disarmed first, what is the Lebanese army waiting for?

    By Blogger Live from an Israeli bunker, at 5:08 PM  

  • The lebanese defense minister did not say the lebanese would come to the aid of Hizbolla. He said the army would fight against any Israeli invasions. There's a difference.

    israel has the latest technology. they've proved it by destoying the lights on the lighthouse (which is near the american university) without damaging anything in the surrounding. They also destroyed two well-digging trucks in the middle of beirut without hitting anything else. this leads me to believe israel isn't trying to minimize civilian loss.

    hizbolla has old, inaccurate technology. yet somehow they have still managed to kill more soldiers than civilians. if they were pure evil terrorists as the US and Israel claim, I don't think this would be the case. Even the hit on the train station in Haifa, Hizbolla admitted they were trying to a nearby military target.

    Hizbolla didn't start launching rockets until Israel started bombing lebanon. We can therefore conclude that Hizbolla would also stop if Israel did. There would be no katyushas falling on israel if israel wasn't bombing lebanon. That i am sure of.

    No the ball is definitely not in our court. The lebanese can't do anything while bombs are raining down everywhere.

    check the death tolls on bloggingbeirut.com

    By Anonymous arguments, at 5:54 PM  

  • "As for children, Nasrallah killed two boys aged 3 and 9 who were Arab..."

    wow. can you seriously convince yourself to compare 2 lost innocent lives with 100?

    By Anonymous arguments, at 5:59 PM  

  • You can't compare, because the death of kids cannot be measured.

    One, two, a hundred, a thousand. It's all too much.

    I am trying to stress a little bit that he is targeting kids. He feels that he can decide on the lives of people. He feels no guilt, two children died and because they are Arab he brushed it off saying they are Shahidim.

    If they were Israeli kids you would have perhaps heard him gloat.

    Can you really tell me you don't see the difference between what he and what we do?

    By Blogger Live from an Israeli bunker, at 6:09 PM  

  • haha! hizbolla doesn't have the technology to accurately target anything.

    Nasralla admitted that the hit on the train station wasn't what they were trying to hit. so how can you say they were targetting children? and if the children were israeli, i don't think nasralla would be proud. he wasn't proud of the 8 killed working at the train station.

    hizbolla isn't innocent in this deal, but they're not complete monsters either. i don't know what they tell you guys israel.

    and there is a difference between 15 accidents and 365 accidents.

    By Anonymous arguments, at 6:23 PM  

  • From a Lebanese blogger.

    Having no ability to target is not an excuse. If they have no ability to target then they can't target the army, and chances are they will hit civilians. You can't tell me they are not doing it purpose, they very much are and there lies the difference. They not only try to hurt us but you as well, for the media.

    By Blogger Live from an Israeli bunker, at 6:36 PM  

  • Hmmm... could you please tell that to the israeli govt? or is there some sort of double standard here?

    (and i said they can't accurately target, but still they seem to be more accurate than the I(D/O/A)F)

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